Transcript: Jared Taylor at Towson University: “The Case for White Identity”

On October 2, 2012, Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, spoke at Towson University at the invitation of a prospective White Student Union. Mr. Taylor argued that white students, and white Americans in general, have legitimate racial interests that are worth defending. Chief among them are ending racial preferences in universities and the workplace and stopping mass immigration. He also pointed out that racial diversity is not a strength, but a source of tension and conflict. Mr. Taylor gave prepared remarks for half an hour before fielding an hour’s worth of questions.

*The description above is taken from the official American Renaissance video description for the event, linked below.

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Note: This is not a precise, verbatim transcript. For the sake of clarity, some minor redundancies and errors in speech have been corrected for ease of reading, especially in a number of cases where Mr. Taylor had to repeat himself after being interrupted by a member of the audience. Some links have been added to provide background information. The hour-long question and answer section has not been included in this transcript because many of the questions asked were not germane to the talk. Section headers have been added to make it easier to find different topics.

Introduction 2:53

Well, thank you very much for that introduction. I very much appreciate this opportunity to speak at Towson University, and thank you all for coming out at this time of evening. I am very glad to see all of you here.

I gather that the issue to be discussed today is whether or not there could or should be a White Student Union at Towson University, and I think the larger issue really is whether or not Whites, as a group, have legitimate interests that they should form organizations to defend. As far as the student union here at Towson is concerned I think a logical point of departure for investigating whether or not such a union could be legitimate is to see what kinds of organizations already exist at this university.

Whites Compared to Other Groups 3:41

There are many, many organizations – I did a little research on my own – and I discovered the following. There is an organization for Asians, there’s one for South Asians, there’s one for Vietnamese, for Filipinos, there are three Chinese organizations. There’s an organization for Caribbean students, one for Muslims, Iranians, Saudi students. There are two organizations for Jewish students, two Hispanic groups, and there are five groups for Blacks, and then there’s something called the Minority Science and Technology Club. I assume that’s primarily directed toward all people but Whites. Then aside from these ethnic or racial groups, there are all sorts of interest groups here at Towson, and the interests can run from anything from an interest in criminal justice to skating, so there is an enormous number of student groups that cater to different interests, different nationalities and ethnicities.

Now, what could possibly be the basis for opposing the organization of a White Student Union? Can you think of any other demographic group that might cause opposition? Just judging from the list I read out to you, it doesn’t sound like any other demographic group would cause any trouble at all. And after all, we live in an era that praises tolerance and inclusiveness. How can it be that Whites and only Whites should not be tolerated, and should be excluded? If that is to be the policy, there must be awfully, awfully good reasons for that policy.

What might those reasons be? Well I think some people might argue that Whites are a majority, and therefore they don’t need to organize. They have no interests because they are the majority. But that thinking doesn’t operate in any other context. If, in the November elections, the Democrats become a majority in the House of Representatives, are they going to say, “Well we’re the majority now. We have no interests. We don’t need to organize”? No. They will organize very carefully to advance their interests as the majority. Also, on this campus, according to the statistics I was able to find, women are 76% of the student body. Women are a majority, but because they are a majority does that mean they cannot organize? That they have no interests? Of course not. The fact that one is a majority certainly does not mean that one does not have interests and one should not legitimately organize.

That leaves only one thing, and that’s race. Whites are not supposed to organize simply, simply because of their race.

Now, in an era in which we are supposed to be fighting racial discrimination – and I’m sure Towson University is very, very serious about fighting racial discrimination – if you are the only group that is told, “No, no. You must not organize or have a student union because of your race,” that is a spectacular example of racial discrimination, and is reason enough in my mind to form a union to combat that kind of racial discrimination.

Affirmative Action in Education 7:01

Now, what are some of the obvious interests Whites might have as Whites that might be taken up by a student union? One thing that’s entirely obvious, certainly in a university context, is the whole question of what’s called ‘Affirmative Action.’

Well, to give Affirmative Action its real name, it is ‘Racial Preferences,’ and the way that racial preferences work is that for certain protected classes, standards are lowered so that they will be admitted to university rather than people of another race. In the case of the university, study after study has shown that Blacks and Hispanics can be admitted to university with standard test scores – SAT scores – 100-200 points lower, out of 1600, than Whites, and with grade point averages equivalently lower.

On February 14, 2011, an organization called the Center for Equal Opportunity did yet another study of this kind, and it concluded in the following way. The CEO for that organization, Linda Chavez, who is herself Hispanic, she put it in these terms, she says, “The study shows that many, many students are rejected in favor of student with lower test scores and grades, and the reason is they have the wrong skin color.” She’s talking, overwhelmingly, about Whites. Whites have the wrong skin color.

Professor Steven Farron is an American professor who is now active in South Africa. He did a huge study of admission to law school, and he compared the GPAs and test scores of those who were admitted with the racial admission ratios, and what he found was that only one fifth that were admitted to law school would have been admitted had they been held to the standard required of whites, only one third of Puerto Ricans would have been admitted, and only one half of Hispanics. The rest were admitted because standards were selectively lowered so as to admit them. And who were the students that were not admitted to those law schools? Overwhelmingly White students were not admitted to as to admit non-White law students.

This is typical of educational institutions throughout the United States. Are any of you aware of a single university or educational institution that boasts of the fact that it ignores race, that it admits strictly on the basis of qualifications? There’s not a single one. Every one of them, not only do they take race into consideration, most of them boast about it. This can only be seen as systematic racial discrimination against Whites. If any other racial group in this country were being treated in this manner, in this openly discriminatory manner, it would be a national scandal. There would be a cost-to-coast uproar.

Imagine Blacks, or Hispanics, or Asians, or anyone else being treated in this fashion. And when it comes to Affirmative Action – Racial Preferences – I find it even more astonishing that recent immigrants can benefit from racial preferences. That means someone who has arrived in this country just last year may, for strictly racial reasons, get preferences over a White person whose family has been in this country, paying taxes, for generations.

How can that be fair?

By the same token, non-citizens can benefit from racial preferences and be given the nod over U.S. citizens.

Obviously, this kind of systematic discrimination is something that should be of great interest to Whites, and would be the kind of thing that a White Student Union can entirely legitimately discuss.

Affirmative Action in Employment 11:07

We find the same kind of discrimination on the job in terms of Affirmative Action. Practically every large company in this country has what’s called a Chief Diversity Officer. That person’s job is to try to put pressure throughout the organization to hire as many non-Whites as possible. As an example, Walmart and Ford Motor Company, these are just two examples of major American corporations that require reports from all of their suppliers on their number of non-White employees and non-White management staff. They don’t require reports on automation technology or whether they’re following the best accounting standards. They are putting pressure on their suppliers to hire non-Whites.

In the case of Walmart, if you want to be a law firm that gets Walmart’s business, they would rate you on three things: one is price; the other is performance; and the other is how many non-White lawyers you have on your staff. In other words, you can be top of the heap in terms of price and performance, but if you don’t have enough non-White lawyers, you don’t get Walmart’s business. All of this creates enormous pressure, enormous pressure to hire non-Whites.

The New York Times offers bonuses to its managers. The more non-Whites they hire, the larger their bonus. Again, pressure to discriminate against Whites.

The opposite is never a problem apparently. In the cities of Washington and Atlanta, in the public transportation system, no fewer than 96% of the bus drivers and train drivers are Black in both of those cities. Now, does this mean that White people are not interested in those jobs? In these times, White people are interested in just about any kind of job. These are good paying, unionized jobs, and if they are 96% Black it is only because Whites are being kept out, but no one seems to care.

On the other hand, if a city is going to hire policemen or firemen, and they hire them by means of a test that has been vetted and very carefully designed so as to have no kind of bias – you squeeze every possible bias out of the test – and yet if Blacks or Hispanics don’t pass it at the same rate then, ‘Oh my gosh. It’s racial discrimination.’ The test has to be thrown out and a judge might very well order the city to hire Blacks or Hispanics who have failed the test.

Once again, a spectacular double standard.

There are set asides in municipal contracting, projects that are set aside for Black owned companies and Hispanic owned companies. Also there is protective bidding so that if something goes out to bid, if a company is owned by a minority then they can get the business, even if their bid is 10-15% higher than the bid of a White owned company.

This sort of thing is so systematic that we have the case of Mostafa Hefny. Now, Mostafa Hefny is a dark skinned Egyptian, and Egyptians are classified by the Census Bureau, for reasons of its own, as White. If you’re Egyptian, you’re officially White. Well Mostafa Hefny has discovered after having been to the United States, there are no advantages to being White. He wants to be reclassified as Black because there are so many professional advantages to being Black.

Diversity is ‘Our’ Strength 14:56

Now, as I’m sure you’re aware, one of the reasons given for racial preferences, in university admissions for example, is to provide for ‘diversity.’ We’re told that diversity is a great strength. Some people would even say diversity is the greatest strength that the United States has. And of course, diversity is supposed to have a lot of different components – language, religion, nationality, ethnicity – but let’s face it. The most important one is race.

The fact is, diversity of this kind isn’t a strength. It’s not a strength anywhere. The words ‘racial conflict,’ ‘racial tension,’ ‘racial discrimination’: all of those terms crop up in the language of the United States today because diversity is a problem rather than a strength. It’s a source of tension, conflict, and dissension.

Let’s consider just the workplace alone. In fiscal year 2007, the Federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, that’s the EEOC, they received no fewer than 39,876 formal complaints of racial and national origin discrimination. That’s more than 150 of them every single work day. Now, in addition to the EEOC filings, there are states, counties, municipalities, corporations, universities, and every part of the government and the armed services has their own grievance procedure for racial discrimination charges.

Employees can also, if they don’t want to go through those procedures, file directly in federal court for racial discrimination, and every year Blacks alone file about 21,000 racial discrimination lawsuits in the federal courts. There’s the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, the Office of Federal Contract Compliance, the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division, and the state and local equivalents of all of these offices. They exist because diversity is such a source of problems, and tensions, and conflict.

I suspect that if you counted up all of the racial discrimination filings throughout the United States in all of the different venues available for formal filings of this kind, you would find hundreds of thousands of them. That’s an enormous amount of effort, an enormous amount of heartache, all deriving from diversity, which is supposed to be a strength.

Now if diversity were inherently good, inherently valuable, and inherently wonderful, why would we have to have the highly-paid profession known as ‘diversity consultant’ to manage it? Things that are inherently good, to enjoy them or to make the most of them you don’t need a consultant. You don’t need a consultant to make the most out of good tasting food, beautiful weather, the affection of your friends. Those are inherently good things.

Diversity requires consultants because diversity is hard, diversity is difficult. It’s because it’s difficult for people to try to work, and act, and live together with people who are unlike themselves. Practically every survey of employees will find that not only are employees more comfortable working with people of the same race as themselves, they also prefer to work with people of the same sex, and about the same level of education.

And again, if diversity is this wonderful strength to which you should all be attracted, why is it that so many people avoid it when they get the chance? In their private lives, when people are entirely free to choose their associates, most people prefer homogeneity rather than diversity. Think about a backyard barbecue, or lounging around with friends, or a dinner party, or a church. When people are free to choose their associates, by and large they do not choose this diversity which is supposed to be such a great strength.

Now what about residential decision-making? I’m sure you’ve all heard of ‘White Flight.’ This is the idea that if Whites are living in a neighborhood, and a certain number of non-Whites show up, they up stakes and clear out and go to some neighborhood that is still majority White. And Whites are routinely criticized for this. This is supposed to be a horrible, racist act on their part.

The fact is, it’s very much a universal thing. There are now many, what were established Black neighborhoods, where Hispanics have moved in and Blacks are very unhappy about this. They liked the neighborhood the way it was. They prefer the company and institutions of Blacks, and they don’t want them changed by the arrival of newcomers unlike themselves.

It can get considerably worse in terms of neighborhood integration. I don’t suppose any of you heard about this, but in May 2009 there was a federal indictment of 147 members of a Hispanic gang called ‘Varrio Hawaiian Gardens Gang.’ This is in the town of Hawaiian Gardens in California. What was this gang doing, this gang of Hispanics? They were systematically trying to clear every Black person out of Hawaiian Gardens. That’s what they thought of diversity. They called themselves a ‘hate-gang.’ They were murdering Blacks. It was a Hispanic gang trying to clear all Blacks out of their town. This was such a substantial undertaking that U.S. Attorney Thomas P. O’Brien called these arrests, “the largest gang take-down in United States history.” In his view, this was bigger than Al Capone, bigger than John Dillinger, bigger than anything the mafia ever did, and I suspect that no one here has ever heard of it.

Why would that be? It’s because what was happening there – this ethnic cleansing of Blacks by Hispanics – was such a shocking slap in the face to the idea that diversity is a strength that people just don’t want to talk about it. This runs so counter to what we’re told about diversity being a strength that we just better hide this news, even if it is the greatest gang take-down in all of American history.

The same is true in prisons. Whenever there’s a prison riot, by the time you get to the twelfth, or thirteenth, or maybe even fifteenth paragraph, you find out that – well, yes – it was because of race. Prison riots are almost exclusively race riots, generally riots between Blacks and Hispanics, but sometime Whites or Asians get involved. But again, we don’t want to talk too much about this because we have this myth that diversity is a strength.

Often, even in high schools, when you have a large number of Black and Hispanic students, you can have very serious race riots. Just a few days ago Silverado High School in Victorville, CA had a series of massive brawls between Black and Hispanic students. I doubt you read about that. These things are almost never important, and near the end of this news story, one of the administrators said, “Yes, this is a constant problem. This happens every year and we can’t stop it.”

Well, you don’t solve things by not talking about them, but that is the way that America approaches any kind of spectacular evidence of this kind, that diversity is a weakness rather than a strength.

Demographic Replacement 22:49

Now, what does this question of diversity, and the weaknesses of diversity, have to do with the possible interests that a White Student Union might have? It has to do with the following. In 1960 the United States was about 90% White. Since that time, massive immigration from non-White countries has reduced the White majority to about 62-63-64%. The projection is that by the year 2042, Whites will be a minority in the United States. From ’60 to ’42, that’s just 83 years. Historically, that’s the blink of an eye. Whites go from being 90% to being a minority.

Now, were Whites ever asked, ‘Do you folks want to be a minority?’ No, they were not.

(a disruption occurred and a representative from the University had to remind the audience not to disrupt or harass Mr. Taylor, 23:3724:21)

No, Whites were never asked about this. Now, is this a legitimate question for Whites to talk about? Well, theoretically – ideally – Whites aren’t even supposed to notice that this is happening. However, it’s very clear that other groups are certainly noticing. Here is the Los Angeles Times on September 2, just a few days ago, they were quoting Toby Chaudhuri, an immigrant from India. He works as a political consultant, and this is what he had to say about the rise of Asian politicians all across the United States, he said, “Here is a chance to define a young, new century. These Asian candidates can take charge of the conversation about what is America.” So, these Asian politicians, they’re going to take charge of the question what is America.

Well, they may have some competition from Hispanics. Here is Jorge Ramos, he the anchorman of the Spanish language television network Univision. In a recent book, he wrote the following talking about Hispanics, his own group, he says, “We are everywhere. There is no occupation or activity in this country that escapes our influence. This century is ours,” says Jorge Ramos.

Well, that’s interesting. Asians are going to tell us what is means to be America. The century belongs to Hispanics. So, where does that leave Whites? Where does that leave black people for example? Black people, for heaven’s sake, have been here a whole lot longer than Asians and Hispanics, but Asians and Hispanics are going to tell us what America is all about?

Well, as you all know, we are constantly being told to celebrate diversity. We can see why Jorge Ramos celebrates diversity. That’s because diversity there are more of his people. That means his language, his heritage, his aspirations, his culture, have a larger, more influential role to play in the United States. The same for Asians. The same for all of the groups that are coming to this country, and the people who are reducing Whites from a majority to a minority. Of course they’re celebrating.

But, when you ask Whites to celebrate diversity, what are you asking them to do? You’re asking them to celebrate their dwindling numbers, their declining influence. You’re supposed to be asking Whites to say, “Great! We’re giving our country away. We’re just going to glimmer away. Hooray, hooray”!

I can’t think of anything quite as sick as that, and the amazing thing is the number of Whites who have been bamboozled and browbeaten into thinking that, somehow, just fading away is some sort of virtuous activity.

Now, just to understand better what’s going on, let’s imagine the shoe on the other foot. Let’s imagine that hundreds of thousands of poor and badly educated Americans, White Americans, were pouring across the border into Mexico, and let’s imagine that they were insisting on instruction in school in English rather than in Spanish. Let’s imagine they were asking for ballot papers in English rather than in Spanish, that they were celebrating the Fourth of July rather than Cinco de Mayo, buying up newspapers and publishing in English, television stations, radios, all broadcasting in English, and that there were so many of them coming in that they threatened to reduce Mexicans to a minority.

Do you think the Mexicans could possibly be tricked into thinking that this was enrichment, that this was diversity, that this was great? No, no. They wouldn’t stand for it for a moment. This would be to them an impossible, unacceptable invasion of their country, and you would find the same reaction in every non-White country anywhere in the world.

Can you imagine, say, the Japanese, or the Nigerians, or the Pakistanis, the Costa Ricans accepting this kind of wholesale demographic change that would change their country, transform their country, and reduce them to a minority? No, these things are impossible to imagine.

Once again we have a spectacular double standard, that what is common sense and taken for granted for every other group is denied to Whites, just like the idea of a White Student Union. Every other racial group, it’s fine. Only Whites, ‘No, no, no, no. Not you guys. Everybody else is ok, but not you guys.’

White Self-Hatred 28:59

Now, I’ll close with yet another reason why Whites might have in interest in something like a White Student Union. It’s this, just about every time a speak at a university, someone will come up to the microphone and say, “I’m a white female, and I just don’t think white people have anything to be proud of.” Well, this is really breathtaking. It’s very tragic in a way. Out of all of Western Civilization, you have people who can’t think of a single thing that they might take pride in.

And again, this is something that is utterly unique. We cannot imagine a person of any other race, any other nationality saying they’ve got nothing to be proud of.

I understand that one of the goals of the White Student Union will be to correct such deluded white points of view, but the fact that you can even have a tragic situation of someone saying, “My group has nothing to be proud of,” goes to show you the kind of poisonous, anti-White atmosphere that tends to pervade a university. Not just this one, but throughout the entire country.

Conclusion 30:10

And so, to conclude, I’d just like to repeat, really, the two main points that I made, and that is, when every other group is encouraged and has the right to organize, whether it’s on national lines, ethnic lines, racial lines, but only whites stir up opposition, that itself is reason to wonder what’s going on. And, if the reason to oppose a White organization is strictly on the basis of race – in this era of absolutely crazed anti-racial discrimination – then this is staggering hypocrisy. This is a spectacular injustice, and I think at Towson it’s about time it came to an end.

Thank you very much.

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